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	<title>Comments on: ID cards - a question of ownership (possibly)</title>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://blog.pigsaw.org/permalink/2005/05/26/68#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrible though it is, lets put aside the human tragedy of today's events and ask 'will this be used as an excuse to push ahead with the ID Card scheme?'

We all know that it will not make a blind bit of difference of course...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrible though it is, lets put aside the human tragedy of today&#8217;s events and ask &#8216;will this be used as an excuse to push ahead with the ID Card scheme?&#8217;</p>
<p>We all know that it will not make a blind bit of difference of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nik</title>
		<link>http://blog.pigsaw.org/permalink/2005/05/26/68#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 14:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, the scheme is &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1492290,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;still being trialled&lt;/a&gt;, and that means there's nothing to put out to tender, let alone a decision being made on where the work will take place. If you were the minister in charge, how would you make the decision? Off-shore it and risk public fears over security and general xenophobia? Or on-shore it with the result of even higher costs? (Well, I know you'd probably say you wouldn't do in the first place...)

I agree the practical arguments against are great - and great enough not to do it. But I also want a theoretical argument against (hence the posting above), because I know I'd feel uneasy about the whole thing regardless of whether it was technically possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, the scheme is <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1492290,00.html" rel="nofollow">still being trialled</a>, and that means there&#8217;s nothing to put out to tender, let alone a decision being made on where the work will take place. If you were the minister in charge, how would you make the decision? Off-shore it and risk public fears over security and general xenophobia? Or on-shore it with the result of even higher costs? (Well, I know you&#8217;d probably say you wouldn&#8217;t do in the first place&#8230;)</p>
<p>I agree the practical arguments against are great - and great enough not to do it. But I also want a theoretical argument against (hence the posting above), because I know I&#8217;d feel uneasy about the whole thing regardless of whether it was technically possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://blog.pigsaw.org/permalink/2005/05/26/68#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of agree with your reasoning, but what bothers me more, over and above the rationale for ID cards in the first place, is the hard practical issue of implementation. Simply put, who will do it and where will this project take place? Will be in the UK, in the EU or some other continent? I only ask as quite a lot of our high profile IT work is done off-shore. As an example, the congestion charge, also a lot of banking data is held off-shore. 

I just wondered, has anyone asked and had a definitive reply to that question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of agree with your reasoning, but what bothers me more, over and above the rationale for ID cards in the first place, is the hard practical issue of implementation. Simply put, who will do it and where will this project take place? Will be in the UK, in the EU or some other continent? I only ask as quite a lot of our high profile IT work is done off-shore. As an example, the congestion charge, also a lot of banking data is held off-shore. </p>
<p>I just wondered, has anyone asked and had a definitive reply to that question?</p>
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